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How To Make Money Autosurfing (for newbies)

OK let's get a few things straight before we begin. I have been plaing these Autosurf games off and on since 2005

#1) All surfs are ponzi – Period. This is the attitude that you need to have when playing in these “Games” Maybe once in a great while we will have an admin that makes an honest attempt at running a non ponzi program, but the chances of that program continuing non ponzi and never using new money o pay old investors is slim to none. So my rule is they are all ponzis or “ Games” and if they turn out to be otherwise then all the better right?

#2) Most surf admins are liars – I know what you are thinking “ Is this guy for real?” Well this again is the attitude that will be necessary for you to see past the BS and into the reality of what is happening. Remember the goal here is to make a profit....if you buy the stories then you will lose. See the goal of many admins is to feed you a good line of BS so that they can raise up your confidence level just before they scam. ***** This is in no way true for all admins. In fact there are many that are very good people. But its always best to assume the worst to make sure you cover your booty.****
See through their games and you will be aware enough to know when to invest and when to get out.

#3) The first few pages of a thread will tell the tale – Are we seeing paid posters? Are any veterans playing here? Are the right probing questions getting asked? Is the admin present in the forum? Has anyone uncovered any dirt of past programs? These are the things to look for when a program is brand new and almost all of these questions can be answered Remember if a program is good it will last past the first cycle. Unless you plan to HitnRun you don't have to be the first to deposit.

#4) Use good surf etiquette – If you have done your homework and have found a program that meets your criteria then do your best to show support for that program. That means posting your payments, getting involved in the forum dialog, Helping new members and of course ( as long as the stats look okay ) reinvesting. I will give you more information on reinvesting in a bit. Remember treat the program good and they will treat you good back....its human nature. What you will also find is that the most active members will get priority service when it comes to cashouts, support etc....

#5) At some point you will lose – I know that's not what you want to hear but its the case for 99.99% of surfers. I've suffered huge losses myself and as a result I learned lessons that make me a better surf player today. Now I mostly win and take very few losses if any at all. No matter how good your DD is and no matter how many rules you follow, there will come a time where an admin will scam you. The chances are it will happen so be prepared for it. This is the risk you take when playing in this arena. If you are unwilling to accept this then put your money in a CD where it will be safe. When the time comes that you lose some money don't join the bashing fest on the forums. Move on...that's all we can do. What happens on the forums is the noobs that have never gotten the above information start to devour each other and scream at the top of their lungs. I know losing hurts guys but its part of the deal with this online stuff. Prepare yourself for this occurrence and know that the risk is always there.

#6) Research Research Research – I can't stress enough how important it is for you to do your homework on the programs that you join. This includes reading blogs, forums etc.....This can only aid in your quest for profit. Stick with us here at Extremesurfs and you will find that we will do our very best to guide you in the right direction.

#7) Quality not Quantity – You do not have to play in every program that is launched. Let me repeat this for you surf junkies out there. You do NOT have to play in every program. One bad program can kill the earnings made from many good programs. Guard your working capital. It takes money to make money so don't entrust it to just anyone. There are always one or two good programs to play in at any given time. Seek these out and try to stick with the good ones.


OK, I want you to know that my intention was not to paint a horrible picture of the surf industry, in fact I love surfing and the potential income that it can provide, but its necessary for you to take the facts and incorporate them into your psyche if you are going to make a real go at this thing.

Let me give you a very good strategy that I've used many times and has proven to be profitable for me while at the same time relatively safe.

Lets say you are in a 10% for 14 days site which pays a total of 140%. I like to follow the 50% reinvest rule. Meaning if you invest 100$ and it pays out 140$ then you would reinvest 70$ Then on the next cycle that 70$ would pay out 98$ so you would reinvest 50$ and so on. By following this strategy you are almost in profit after the first cycle and very close to playing with profits. Of course this strategy does require a decent program for it to work properly.

So as we are surfing along and earning what are some of the things we should be looking out for to tell us if our strategy is going to work or not?

#1) Stats – This should give you a general idea of where the program is at financially. Some admins will remove the stats but most programs will have them right on the home page for all to see. Since we can assume that most programs are ponzis we are looking for the paid out stat to be equal or less than 75% or the deposits. Any higher than that and you can assume that this particular program is a goner. Now its a common scammer move to close when the deposits hit 25% left and we have seen it time and time again. Occasionally you will get an admin that will pay more but don't count on it.

#2) Red Flags – We hear it talked about all the time but what are red flags really? Here are some things to look for – Slowing deposits, Lack of admin participation, Late payments or excuses why payments are delayed, admin claiming they will be away for a time for a “ Trip” etc... , Paid posters showing up, Admins dropping certain payment processors because of lack of deposits, changes in the interest rates or plans. Basically anything out of the ordinary. One that we've seen a lot of lately is bonuses. Once in a while they are fine but if they occur after the program has already paid a cycle or two then its time to get out. We've already established that most admins are all too happy to lie to you and you know what they say about excuses Smile If you are unsure if something is a red flag then always err on the side of caution and treat it as such. You can also follow the lead of the senior members of the forums. They got to be senior members because they endured dozens if not hundreds of programs and most know their stuff.

So by following some of the above rules you should be able to increase your cash flow and hopefully win more than you lose.

Of course never play with money that you need for your bills or that you have plans for down the road and always always always play safe. Better to miss out on profit then lose it all.

I hope this has been helpful to you guys and remember this is only my way of surfing. If you have other better ways that work for you then by all means utilize them to the best of your ability.


If you wish to join up under me on any Autosufs look under Admins joined Autosurfs. If I delete an Autosurf that means I have seen a Red Flag and am pulling out as soon as I can.

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